Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Speaker A: W VUA FM Tuscaloosa.
[00:00:14] Speaker B: Welcome in, ladies and gentlemen, to the low tide here on 90.7 the capstone. I'm Nicholas, personally joined as always by Joe Schottz and Adam Hambright.
Gentlemen, the day has come. I don't know that I would ever have expected this given everything that's happened this season, but a Alabama has won the SEC championship. They took down number one, Georgia, 27 24 in Atlanta. And then this morning we found out Alabama is in the college football playoff at number four. Immediate reaction to just everything that has happened.
[00:00:55] Speaker C: The immediate reaction with a good 8 hours mean, I don't think Alabama could have hoped for any better of a they, it was clear that Alabama had a game plan. They said, you know, we're going to know Brock Bowers out of the game or try to at least as much as you can. Going to make Carson Beck throw to these other guys. McConkey for them, for Georgia, just seemed, I mean, I'll give him all the credit in the world for going out and trying to play, but it was apparent that he was not in any way, shape or form going to really help that team from a football standpoint.
And Alabama just got, they found matchups that they liked.
Georgia was leaving whoever was in the backfield for passing plays just wide open.
Jay Miller caught the touchdown off of that. Isaiah Bond almost caught a touchdown essentially out of that kind of didn't, you know, the biggest thing I guess they didn't make any mistakes and Georgia made a won.
[00:02:06] Speaker A: So, yeah, for me it definitely was not the way that you would expect to be watching the SEC championship game. So for me this weekend I was with the women's wheelchair basketball team on the trip up to Wisconsin whitewater, about a 13 hours bus ride up there. They won three of their games. They were scheduled for four, the last team forfeited their game because they didn't have enough people to field the team after injuries. And then it's me, well really everybody but me and a group of people up in the front of the bus watching on our cellular devices. And it starts off and you see Georgia just go down and score and it's like it could be a long you know, we did have every other time Alabama has played Georgia in an SEC championship game, they've always went down and then they come back. So I'm not really that worried. You see the response and really the rest of the first half, Alabama kind of dominated and they probably had a chance in the second half to kind of put Georgia away early. But Georgia is a good team, good defense. They were able to keep Alabama. I think they put it up at one time we had only had like 20 yards in the second half after like four drives or something like that. We got the turnover and if Alabama could have scored a touchdown right there. Probably doesn't get to be that close at the end, but Alabama won. I was excited. I still tuned into the rest of the games on the trip, and I don't know if I ever really expected Alabama to get selected to go in just because it was the undefeated team. But Florida State, we had, we actually talked about the criteria a couple of shows ago, and I had brought up the fact that Texas running back had went down with an ACL injury, and I was saying that they could keep them out. Now Texas came out, showed, hey, the injured running back didn't really affect us that much. They won the Big Twelve dominating fashion in the Big Twelve championship game. And I get the argument for Florida State of being, we have the good defense, we're undefeated. Ohio State did this with their third string quarterback. Well, their third string quarterback had also just played in a Big Ten championship game where they won 59 nothing over a ten win Wisconsin team. Florida State didn't do that. And then this morning, watching the selection show, seeing Alabama pop up there, I immediately was like, all right, how am I going to get out there? Pasadena, how much are the tickets? It's going to cost some money, but I'm planning on getting out there. I'm excited, truly.
[00:04:47] Speaker B: Just a wild sequence of events these past couple weeks for Alabama.
This whole season has kind of been like a storybook season, almost, right? So many improbable things have happened to this team.
Obviously, the week before, you have the Iron Bowl, just chaos. One of the wildest things I think I have ever experienced.
I definitely was in shock for quite a while after that game had finished.
And then you go to Atlanta, you're taken on the number one team in the country that has a 29 game winning streak, and you have a ten point lead at halftime. And the thing for me is, even when it got close, and I believe Alabama was only up three with what, like five minutes to go? Four or five minutes.
And I tweeted out if I went back and told you right after that Texas loss. So picture Brian Denny right after the Texas loss. All the Alabama fans have cleared out, and there's just a swarm of orange that has gathered underneath the press box and is celebrating with the players all around. Sark runs over, and that was such a surreal moment then because it's very rare that you see a team come in to Bryant Denny and dominate. It's very rare that you see a top five team lose at home. They mentioned that on the show this morning that only one top five team had lost at home this year, and it was Alabama to go from that to time runs out. Alabama's won the SEC. They beat the number one team in the country by three points.
Is just wild. And that was part of what I had tweeted out. I said, if I told you that with a couple minutes left, alabama is going to have a three point lead over Georgia in the SEC championship game, you would look at me like I was insane. And it is insane and not even talking about the playoff, right? And I would have come on here and said the same thing had they made the playoff or not.
It is unbelievable how much this team has grown and evolved from where they were.
This is definitively Nick Saban's greatest coaching job of his career. And there's not a question in my mind about that anymore. I was already thinking that after that Iron Bowl. Now I'm 100% positive. Was this the Georgia team that we were really expecting? No, they looked vulnerable, right. But it is so hard to keep up that dominance for so long.
The only person who maybe can relate would be Nick Saban. And even then he did it for much longer, right.
Eventually something's going to happen. You're going to have that bad game.
And if I would have told you Alabama was going to go three for 13 on third down and they were only going to rush for what, 2.8 yards per rush, you'd say, well, that's not good.
But somehow they have a ten point lead at halftime and they end up winning the game.
Just a wild sequence of, well, the.
[00:08:34] Speaker C: Good thing, too was like you said, I mean, Alabama only ran to 2.8 yards per carry. Georgia was at 2.5.
Alabama got Georgia in a worse running game than they did and Alabama didn't have much of anything, especially with McClellan out.
[00:08:53] Speaker B: And think about what we had seen just the week before.
Auburn ran all over Alabama and then you get to the SEC championship game, they look like a completely different team. Now, I know that Iron Ball, Jordan Hare, there's some voodoo going on there.
[00:09:11] Speaker C: But that buffs up your numbers.
[00:09:14] Speaker B: Just crazy and a fantastic game.
[00:09:18] Speaker A: A couple things I want to point out. So one, after the Texas game and after the South Florida game, we didn't come out and say we predict a championship, but I do remember me saying specifically this team was good enough to lose to everybody at the rest of the season, but also good enough to win against everybody the rest of the season. And they came out, they improved every week they won. I mean, you might say they stepped back against Auburn, but I think that was more of showing how they could handle the adversity and they come out, they beat Georgia. Now, earlier this week before the Georgia game, certain people went out on podcasts and said Kirby Smart was clearly the best coach in the matchup. He said clearly twice in his little statement and what that individual said know he was looking at the past couple years, which is fine of turnovers and penalties. Now this season, going into that game, just looking at this season, which Nick has said many times, this is Nick Saban's best coaching performance. Alabama had four small turnovers, committed less turnovers, and was only averaging about two more penalties than Georgia per game. Going into the championship game, we get to the championship game.
Turnovers georgia one. Alabama none. Penalties, Georgia, five for 56, alabama, three for 36. And then something he didn't point out, but right here, Alabama owned the time of possession, which we have not seen especially during our more high potent offensive days with like Bryce Young. It would just be like we just scored a lot of points, but they own the time possession because they got the ball more. Alabama dominated the game. And I do think the 2.8 yards per rush is a little misleading because obviously, I don't know how many yards were taken away because of sacks. There was a couple of sacks in there for a decent amount of yards. I don't know exactly, but I know Roydell Williams, especially in that second quarter, was just gashing the Georgia Bulldogs defense just going right down. Like, it seemed at one point that he was getting like five yards of carry on one of the drives. And I think it could have been a little higher if not for the sacks. But even though it was a three point win, to me it kind of seemed bigger. It didn't really seem like Georgia really had that chance to win after that first drive. When they went up, once Alabama made the response, it was just to me, it seemed like Alabama kind of controlled the game.
[00:11:45] Speaker C: Yeah. And I was going to say just to kind of go back to a point you said earlier with mistakes and penalties and field goals. I mean, that's the one thing Alabama has lost games in the past couple years because of know, we can go back and look. Obviously Tennessee game last year, there was a pretty big pi call that essentially got Tennessee in a position to win that game. LSU. It seemed like every time Alabama didn't play good it was because of they had like 100 and something yards and penalties and Georgia in this game.
It was a three point game. Albeit, like you said, Adam, I thought Alabama played a little better than just three points, but that was a game in which Georgia was committed a penalty and then misses a field goal.
They go down the field, they had a solid drive, they're in field goal range and then I believe it went from like a 45 yarder to a 50 and the kicker shanks it or hits it off the upright.
In games like that, and I've said it a couple of times, it seems like that is ultimately what decides like an SEC championship where you have two teams that are that evenly matched. I mean, if we want to go back about eleven years. Alabama, georgia met in the SEC championship. Alabama won because a dude slipped.
You win these games because you kind of keep everything that you can control controlled, like penalties.
Getting first downs, albeit three and 13 on third downs is not great.
[00:13:19] Speaker A: They got just enough, the ones that.
[00:13:21] Speaker C: They need, I guess they were, what, three and 13 on third downs and what, like three of three on fourth downs? Two for two for two on fourth down. So, I mean, you're getting extra possessions anyway. But, yeah, it was just a really fundamental game. I mean, it kind of reminded me of watching Alabama of kind of like a couple of years ago in a game like this where you knew it's going to be tight, but you watched Alabama play and they're doing everything smart. Millro is not making bad picks. Kind of missed a couple guys throwing the ball, but didn't turn the ball over, didn't make any mental mistakes, didn't give Georgia any points, didn't take away any points from yourself, and just like a very clean, fundamental game. And that, I think kind of plays out and wins out in the know.
[00:14:14] Speaker B: The, the crazy thing for me about this game, right, is like all season it felt like every game there was one game. Alabama would need a miracle. You'd need some crazy comeback. You'd need the defense to completely shut out the other team. You would need Millro to have some record breaking night, a heisman moment. You need an, you know, a gravedigger play at the end of the game, but you didn't need any of that in this game.
This game was not won or lost by any one player.
It was more so a culmination of everything that this team has become since that, you know, every little piece, right? Isaiah Bond had that huge catch on fourth down, which was a huge turning point in the game because Georgia would have gotten the ball back with timeouts and time still left on the clock and gotten it back after halftime. So that was huge.
Jalen, a couple of key runs there at the end of the game. No turnovers from him when things did not start off well. Two, three and outs to start the game. Not ideal, especially after you'd seen that first Georgia drive where they just kind of went straight down the field, didn't really get then, you know, kool aid. McKinstry unfortunately goes out with a concussion.
[00:15:46] Speaker A: Luckily he's got a month bounce back.
[00:15:49] Speaker B: Yeah. And then Amos comes in and plays fantastic defense sliding over from safety. But it's just everything that has happened to this team over the course of the year, all the growth just showed in this game. It was a fantastic game from Alabama, just a know, Nick Saban said that this is one of his favorite teams that he's ever coached. He said it's because they really are a team, everybody's bought in. How many times last year did we have that conversation about if everyone was really buying in?
There were a lot of culture questions around Alabama. It feels like those culture questions are gone.
[00:16:37] Speaker A: Yeah and I think a big part of that is the rest of the coaching staff because we've had Nick Saban. The team has had really good leaders last year with Price Young, Will Anderson and leaders that have came before. But there was still that what's missing. Why can't the defense get the stops? Why are they coming into these big time games and not going out and attacking?
They're saying that they were playing with anxiety. They came into the game with anxiety, which I get like you might be nervous for a big game but something was missing. And then the additions that were made this offseason with the assistant coaches seems like it brought a different mindset to the team which early in the the you have the loss, you have the bad game against South Florida, you might be saying to know this team's just like the other ones. But then you saw kind know how the leaders stepped up after that and when they started getting into the big games, especially the ones that were coming like back to back with the Tennessee and LSU was like they were ready for the game. They didn't come in. I mean it's also good to have it at home but they were coming in ready to play, ready to handle business. And you heard which player was it? Was it Booker, Tyler Booker who made the statement after like the Alabama standard can't be replicated only imitated. And we had said that before the know after media that's know Kevin Steele said at the media days where he was know, we're coming back to reset the Alabama standard and well he said that it didn't go anywhere but they were really wanting to reestablish it and one regular season SEC championship gave them letter. Their SEC champs going to go to the playoff four seed.
So I think they reestablished know that's.
[00:18:38] Speaker B: Another part of why I think this coaching job is just insane from Nick Saban because he made the perfect hires. Like you can't look at Steele or Tommy Reese and say that those were not just home run.
So truly a fantastic coaching job and.
[00:18:59] Speaker C: Especially when you look at because I actually know one of the things and we're going to do a very I would imagine deep dive into the playoffs coming up next segment but like maybe.
[00:19:11] Speaker A: A couple other bowl games too.
[00:19:12] Speaker B: Yeah I'm really interested in the Mayo.
[00:19:15] Speaker C: Bowl guys but you look week three when he benched Milro. I mean, like, that game, if Alabama was to be left out, that game would have been brought up definitely 17 to three win over USF in which he looked terrible.
And I don't know if necessarily benching now, I will say benching Miller might have awoken him a little more, but for Saban to still keep trust in those guys and for those guys to still, I think, trust Saban and Steele or Tommy Rieso, whoever, in kind of some of these big time decisions. I think that was another area where I think Alabama was lacking a little bit in which it seems know somebody or coachings kind of what you guys said. Like coaches and players didn't just fit and they didn't seem like they really respected each other and what the decision was because they kept getting for an Alabama term beat even if they would win the game. And I think this time, these players really kind of resonated. And Saban took a very different approach, I think, and it made all these guys kind of get into each other and believe into each other and not back away from criticism, but kind of embrace it and look at it as, hey, this is kind of what we have to do. You already lost the game. What's the point of really moping about it for the rest of the season after yeah, Nick, I think you're right and this is probably one of the best coaching jobs Saban's ever had and it also has probably come with one of the most interesting teams he's ever had.
[00:21:00] Speaker A: So what I will say know I know it's south Florida.
It was a six and six South Florida team. They are going to a bowl game and they only lost two games at home. So the loss might not be not the loss, but the very narrow win that seemed like a loss in many Alabama fans'minds might not be as bad as we think it was. We'll see how they do in their bowl game against Syracuse. And one thing that I was thinking of during this SEC championship game, south.
[00:21:31] Speaker B: Florida got to be feeling like real good right now.
[00:21:33] Speaker C: Oh, yeah, I mean, you'd hang that.
[00:21:36] Speaker A: Banner, they're going to obviously know the circumstances of which Alabama was playing in that game, but I would tell that to every single recruit that I'm trying to get. But in this game, jermaine Burton, Georgia transfer, got the one touchdown, two catches, 28 yards, could have had more. He was open a couple of times. That credit to the Georgia defensive front. Not giving Millro enough time to get to that read to where he I remember there was one play where he was, like, wide open in the end zone, and Milro had already been forced out and tried to hit Isaiah Bond in the corner, but he seemed like nobody could really cover him. Really. I mean, I know only like two catches, but once we got into the second half, they weren't really trying to throw it all that much. And then Tresman Marshall, another Georgia transfer, obviously he had the fumble recovery, but he also was tied for second and tackles on the team. He had five total tackles, four solo. So I don't know if it was just wanting to beat the old team and not have to listen to it forever after transferring, but I thought they played really well in the game.
[00:22:49] Speaker B: One thing is certain, the 30 for 30 about this team is going to be unreal.
[00:22:55] Speaker C: Yeah, I think they have to win the Natty for the 30 for 30.
[00:22:58] Speaker B: But at the very least, no, the.
[00:23:00] Speaker C: SEC story on the SEC network will be legendary.
[00:23:04] Speaker A: Maybe Nicholas is trying to tell us. Maybe he's already predicted Alabama to win this national championship.
[00:23:09] Speaker B: No comment. No comment.
[00:23:12] Speaker A: Maybe the next break.
[00:23:14] Speaker B: Maybe. All I will say for now is lank. Let all naysayers know, which they certainly have. When we come back, a deep dive on the College Football Playoff and all the chaos that happened during that six hour show on ESPN this morning. When we come back.
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Welcome back in, ladies and gentlemen, to the low tide here on 90.7, the Capstone, nick, Joe, Adam, we're talking college football playoffs, of course, the final rankings revealed this morning.
Alabama is in.
In a shocking twist of events, the top four michigan, Washington, Texas and Alabama, with Florida State coming in five and Georgia finishing in six.
Pretty wild reactions all across Twitter this morning. You knew it was coming regardless of what happened. But I do think we got the most controversial of the outcomes with Alabama getting in over an undefeated ACC champion, florida State. A lot of firsts today. This is the first time that a power five conference champion, or, sorry, an undefeated power five conference champion has been left out of the playoff. It is the first time that the number one team in the penultimate ranking dropped completely outside of the playoff. And it's the first time that any team below six has made their way into the ranking in the final week. Not only that seven and eight, texas and Alabama both find their way in truly chaos.
[00:25:34] Speaker C: It was crazy because just to start it off, I always thought once Alabama won that there was going to be a very strong likelihood that they would get in. But it was wild to know. You looked around, michigan won, washington won, texas won, florida State won. Every school that Alabama didn't want to win essentially won, and they still got in. And obviously it's not like there's the NFL where you win and you're in, they have to select you anyway. But just kind of a really fascinating kind of insight into just what this committee was about. And they said it from pretty much the start of the rankings in what was it, week eight or nine, something like that, where they said, we want to look for the four best teams. And they kept that up, and that's kind of been their mantra.
And I think that we got it. I think we got the four best teams michigan, Washington, Texas, Bama. But I didn't know if they'd actually pull the trigger on that because like you said, it's probably the most controversial out of the four options that they've.
[00:26:49] Speaker B: I mean, and another thing to specifically point out, when they said the four best teams, they specifically said it was not the four most deserving team.
[00:26:58] Speaker A: That's what the College Bowl Playoff executive director said. Not Boo, the guy that's basically his boss.
[00:27:04] Speaker B: I think his name is Bill Hancock.
[00:27:06] Speaker A: Yeah, the actual executive director. Boo, he is the committee, like, chair chair, and he's the one that always had to answer questions. By not answering questions, hancock came out. He said, it's the four best teams. It's not the most deserving. They do not have most deserving in their lexicon. And then what they would bring up was part of their criteria is looking at player availability and if that impacted the team. I made the statement earlier how Ohio State did win a national championship with their third string quarterback. It was also after he played against a ten win Wisconsin team. They won 59 to nothing. And I'm trying to see if I can get the statistics for him in that game.
It was something like 300 yards passing sidebar.
[00:27:58] Speaker B: While you're looking for that, if you are the College Football Playoff committee, please get a new talking head. Oh, my God, look, yes, take a lesson from WWE. Some guys just don't got it on the mic. You got to get the Paul Heyman in there.
[00:28:12] Speaker C: Got to get the manager.
[00:28:13] Speaker B: Go get, like, a former White House press secretary to answer questions, please.
[00:28:19] Speaker A: So had Cardell Jones in that game. Went 1217 for 257 yards and three touchdowns. Also Ezekiel Elliot, 20 carries, 220 yards, two touchdowns in that game. So you could clearly see that that was a team that was probably the four best, and then they proved it by beating Alabama in the semifinal and then beating Oregon in the National Championship. Now with Florida State, I get it undefeated. For me, it would almost be hard for me to say not to put them in because they are undefeated, because I'm also thinking along the lines of they deserve to be in almost, but also Alabama, I think, deserved to be in just so because, I mean, they beat the number one. They had four wins over top 25 teams. The improvement, clearly, and the one team they lost, they already had moved.
I saw one comment on Twitter where it was like, as soon as they put Texas above Florida State, it was like, well, they have to put Alabama in. Now they're already showing that they'll move a one loss ahead of an undefeated. And in the last two games, so unfortunately, Jordan travis goes down against North Alabama, unable to play the rest of the year. I saw his post on Twitter, very heartbreaking, saying he wished he broke it earlier so they could see how good the team was. So the only thing, I mean, obviously the North Alabama game, don't know how much that would have been talked about, but against Florida, they had Tate Rodimaker. He went twelve to 25, 134 yards, no touchdowns. They win that game 20 415. Rodimaker gets hurt in the game. Brock Lynn comes in, does not attempt a single pass.
Didn't have to. They were winning the game, but they just had to run the clock out. So don't know if Rodimaker is going to play leading up into the ACC Championship game. He gets ruled out. Rock Glenn gets a start, eight of 21, 55 yards. And they had a good defense. They were able to shut Louisville down. It was also a Louisville team that had just lost to Kentucky the week before. So it's just not a good look when the playoff committee has to look at that game and then look at how Alabama just beat Georgia, who they've ranked number one, and make that decision.
I think it is the four best teams. I was almost surprised that they still didn't find a way to keep Georgia in after how they had kept them in in 2021. But we got our matchups and I think I'm okay with the decision.
[00:30:46] Speaker C: Yeah, I think we are okay with the decision, for sure.
[00:30:50] Speaker A: I can't speak for it, but I'm not speaking as an Alabama fan. Now. I think those teams that are in is better than seeing Florida State get in. Even if they're able to keep it close, I don't think they're going to be able to win a playoff game. But we don't know who's going to say that they're not playing in the bowl game. We don't know about that yet. They have a chance to come out, play Georgia in their bowl game and show that they might have deserved well.
[00:31:16] Speaker C: Yeah, I mean, I don't think they're really going to get Georgia, though. I think you're getting like Georgia limping in, not really wanting to be I'm not going to say they don't want to be there, but this happened to Alabama a couple of times, where it happened to the start of the Sugar Bowl last year for Alabama. You're just like, oh, they just don't even really play, like but they came back.
[00:31:37] Speaker A: Yeah, they dominated that Sugar Bowl game.
[00:31:39] Speaker C: Yeah, but they did lose a Sugar Bowl to Oklahoma in 2000.
[00:31:42] Speaker A: And you're correct, but it's not like they just laid down in that game. They were in that game till the.
[00:31:47] Speaker C: Very no, but, yeah, I don't think Georgia is just going to lay down. I mean, they're still going to play football. I just don't know if you're going to get the best shot of Georgia or probably the. Best shot of Florida State because they're probably both pretty disappointed. I mean, we were joking in the break. That shot of the picture of Kirby smart and Mike norvell, the Florida state coach, in the bowl game press conference, and they just looked like, just so disinterested in being I I'm not saying that it's going to be bad, and maybe in time it'll pass and the team will get really hyped up, but.
[00:32:18] Speaker A: I don't know if we know kirby smart. He wants to show that his team still should have got in, even with the loss. And we know Florida State wants to prove that even with the third string quarterback, they could have competed. I think depending on if certain individual players decide that they're not going to play in it, I think it would be I mean, it's their decision. I just think with this game and how both teams kind of feel about the ending of the season, that it's actually going to be a good game. But we'll see.
[00:32:47] Speaker C: Maybe.
[00:32:47] Speaker B: So. First thing I'll say before I get into my takes about the whole thing legitimately, we have a UCF situation on our hands.
[00:32:57] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:32:58] Speaker B: If something about Florida State was to beat Georgia in that game, they would. I can almost guarantee you claim a national championship.
[00:33:09] Speaker C: Well, the state legislature, I don't know if you've seen that, is apparently trying to protest something.
[00:33:15] Speaker A: That's okay.
[00:33:15] Speaker C: I don't know what they're going to do.
[00:33:16] Speaker B: I guess they're going to sue the NCAA or the playoff committee or something, which is just a joke, fake outrage.
What are you going to do? You're going to go after Disney?
[00:33:27] Speaker A: I mean, look, they already made the decision to rectify this by making it a twelve team playoff. It just so happens to be next year.
[00:33:35] Speaker C: And listen to this, too.
The ACC was against voting for expansion this year. Their commissioner did not want to expand this year, he said, and it eventually signed for next year. But I mean, if you're Florida State, I'm going to be honest, you're probably looking at the ACC commissioner. I mean, first off, your TV deal is not great. There have been murmurs that they're trying to get out anyway, and then he kind of and obviously it's all in hindsight, but I would imagine the Florida Ad or president or heck, maybe even the coach himself. Norvell called Mr. I think it's Jim Phillips, the ACC commissioner, probably in a very different mindset. And I wouldn't be shocked if it was just like, what are you we, we finally have a good team. And because you didn't vote for this expansion and because of kind of these other factors, we're not going to be able to even get a chance to play for the national championship.
[00:34:35] Speaker B: And here's the funniest part. I think Florida State might be about to pull a live and do not be shocked if Florida State becomes one of the first college football teams with some what is the word that I'm looking for some interesting backing public investment fund.
[00:35:01] Speaker A: I think I've been looking forward to this game for a couple of years now, but I brought it up on X. How that 2025 August 30 game alabama at Florida State just got a lot more interesting. Both teams are going to I mean, especially Florida State, they're going to want to take a little bit of revenge if they don't make the playoff next year or don't get a chance at Alabama in a playoff next year. It'll be interesting. Also with I don't know, man.
I still feel bad that they didn't get a chance. But it's like when you're making the decision for four best teams, and on the College Football Playoff committee, there was multiple not just like one or two, there was like I can't remember the exact number, but there's multiple people on that committee with ties to the ACC, and they still made the decision that Florida State should not get in.
[00:36:03] Speaker C: And if you look at Florida State just in general, and I think this is why the committee, they probably hate not hate, but they probably hate the case that they were put in with Florida State. Because if you look at it, like if Florida State say they had lost to Clemson early in the season or Boston College almost got like they lose one game, it's like a no brainer that they're out, but they just kind of kept winning and winning. And I think it's hard for a committee which all year they put Florida State over Oregon, Texas, Alabama, at that final force in that four spot for the entirety that going into this week. And Oregon obviously lost, so they weren't going to get in Alabama. Texas both won, Florida State won, and the ranking changed. And that's what I think upsets some people is that you go from a situation where you had Florida State four, Texas seven, Alabama eight, and then all of a sudden it flipped. And I was kind of thinking about this. If you think that if the committee thought that all Alabama had to do, the Georgia win actually made Alabama the number four team in the country and that was kind of the only decider, fair enough. But with all the teams that that's what I'm just surprised about. It's just shocking that every game went against Alabama and they still got in. And I'm not saying it's bad because I do think it's going to make for a better game and a better team, or it's a better team in. But Florida State has like, I think it's like one or two ranked wins with LSU and Louisville, I believe. I don't think Duke's ranked anymore.
But then you're just looking around and it's like, okay, they struggled. It's interesting. Jordan Traverse, when he got hurt, they were actually losing to North Alabama 13 to nothing when he got hurt. They really did not end the season strong to a point where you're like, oh, yeah, this is definitely one of the teams that should be in. I mean, if they went out and dominated these teams, in a sense, what Alabama did, albeit against tougher teams where they just got better and got better, and you're looking around and you're like, yeah, this was their best week, and then the next game happened, well, that's their best week.
They just never had that.
I feel for them and the fans and stuff because they did everything that they were supposed to do and still didn't get in. But it's just tough. You lose your quarterback like that and they do look like a different team, which is, I believe the phrase, the playoff committee said.
[00:38:56] Speaker B: So here's my take. First off, let me preface all this by saying I really do feel for Florida State and the players and the tweet that Jordan Travis sent out saying that he wished he would have broke his leg sooner, that is heartbreaking, and I can only imagine what that feels like for him.
That being said, I think that there were a lot of things working against Florida State and working for Alabama. First off, just last year, you had a dud of a national championship game. Now, did TCU deserve to be there? Absolutely.
And I don't think that they regret putting them in at all because they beat Michigan, who last year granted, I did say that I thought both Michigan and Ohio State kind of stunk last year. I thought that the Big Ten stunk as a whole. Last year. Obviously, Ohio State gave Georgia a fantastic game. That was a great game, but Michigan got straight up beat, like, outclassed by TCU. And then they get destroyed in the national championship game.
But that's ringing in the minds of the College Football Playoff Committee when they're making their decision this year. Like, make no mistake, that national championship game played a larger role than they probably would be willing to admit.
Second, everything going right for Alabama. Yes, you had a loss in week two, but your team looks nothing like it did at that point. The offense is completely different. The offensive line made huge strides. Your running game came alive once you started figuring out how to use Milro.
Milro turned into a player who might be going to New York. Imagine if I would have told you that after he got benched, after that Texas game, the defense came alive and Alabama is red hot. There's not a hotter team in the country right now, without a doubt. Like, even Michigan not as close to as hot as Alabama is right now. Given everything that's happened, all the moments that have led up.
If you're Florida State, your big wins aren't really that impressive. Like when that Clemson win is one of your top three best wins. That's tough.
[00:41:36] Speaker C: Yeah, I mean, their best win is.
[00:41:38] Speaker B: Against LSU in week one. Found out that LSU was not exactly a top five team in the country.
Sorry. No, I would go then you have Jordan Travis get hurt and your backup gets hurt. And like you were saying, Adam, this is not Cardell Jones. This is not Ohio State. Ohio State came out in that game in the Big Ten championship game and they dominated.
Florida State did not dominate Louisville. They looked awful. And to be honest with you, watching that game as we're driving back from Atlanta, louisville threw that game away right.
[00:42:19] Speaker A: To that linebacker, just like back to.
[00:42:22] Speaker B: Back interceptions, one of which got called back.
And then on literally, I think the very next play throws an interception. There might have been a gap. Yeah, you get the ball on the.
[00:42:34] Speaker A: So they get the ball.
They didn't block the punt, but the punter knew it was going to be blocked. Goes down, they have the ball. First down almost was a touchdown. It kind of gets stripped while they're on the ground. I could see the argument for both ways. Well, the interception, I think he was out of bounds by the time he actually regained possession of the ball. But I could kind of see how you're saying maybe it could have been a touchdown. How long does he have to have it before it's an actual catch? It goes back. They run like one other play and then on the third down play they throw it. And if he just leads them a couple more yards maybe, but still it was like right to the defender.
[00:43:10] Speaker B: But Louisville just a terrible performance in that game. I don't care how good Florida State's defense is, but there's just so much working against Florida State and working for Alabama. Now, granted, after that game finished last night, did I think Alabama was in? No. I tweeted out that you were going to have to have florida state lose for alabama to get in because there was no chance that they were jumping texas. And I've been saying that for weeks and they didn't end up jumping like was putting alabama in the correct thing to do if you want the four best teams. Absolutely.
I was more so shocked that the committee actually did what they said they were going to do.
Now granted, they'd been setting it up. They'd been setting it up. They prepped everybody when they said it was going to be the four best teams and a lot of people told you that this was what was going to happen. Josh Pay said Alabama was going to be in.
Four of the five guys on the desk right before the thing was revealed said Alabama was going to be in. ESPN's predictions that came out right after the Florida State game said Alabama was going to be in and nobody wanted to believe them. And then just a couple minutes before they reveal things all of a sudden Alabama is favored to get in.
Was it the right call if you want the four best teams? Absolutely. Do I still feel for Florida State? Absolutely. Do I think there's going to be some negative consequences from leaving Florida State out? Yes, absolutely. But those will be things to talk about in the offseason, not right now.
[00:44:55] Speaker C: I will say, too, I don't know how much the TCU game last year really affected it because I just think mean, the level of talent that TCU had going into that national championship, well, even going into the playoff was just not up to snow. I mean, they were just having one of those crazy seasons know, you get a good coach, quarterback, receiver, and it just kind of blends together and you win a lot of games.
But I do think that Jordan Travis going down once he went down, I think from the committee standpoint, once it was ruled he wasn't going to come back, I mean, Florida State would have had to, like we've said. They would have had to dominated Florida, dominated Louisville and get to a point where you're like, oh, they didn't miss a beat and they didn't do that. And I don't know, if Florida State beat Louisville by like 30, would they have gotten in? I guess. But it was just so hard with the way that Alabama had been playing.
You get a twelve and one power five champ with the best win in the country, and their only loss was a twelve and one big twelve champ who's ranked third in the country.
It was just going to be hard for that resume to not get in.
[00:46:16] Speaker A: I think so.
One thing. Do we think that this is the best selection for the playoff, the one that was made?
[00:46:26] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:46:26] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:46:27] Speaker B: Unequivocally, I think maybe the only argument that you can possibly have is that Michigan shouldn't be in altogether. And that's if you think that Michigan did some nefarious things I think a couple things. We're past that point now.
[00:46:42] Speaker A: Yeah, I think a couple of things. I think, one, the committee probably should have already moved Florida State out of the top four so that they weren't sitting there with that four spot and then getting moved out after the championships. If they'd already moved them out of the top four, then it could have just been like, well, if they weren't there, they got but when they already had that spot thinking that they're going to be in and then Ohio State, they moved them back, they still kept them ahead of Texas and Alabama. Why not go ahead and move them behind both of them? Because then you don't have the false hope for Ohio State of possibly jumping up. But also you don't have two teams coming all the way from seven and eight into the top four.
[00:47:25] Speaker B: Here's the reason.
With the rankings that came out the week before, you are looking at the teams as presently constructed, assuming no conference titles have been handed out yet, conference titles make a big deal. And the reason why Texas and Alabama were able to jump Ohio State is because Ohio State sat at home, didn't get to play another game, while Alabama and Texas were both able to go out and get marquee wins. Now, Alabama's one was much more marquee, but Texas dominated Oklahoma State.
[00:48:03] Speaker A: I think the big thing about it is we've seen it before where a team has sat there with one loss not in a championship game and still got into the playoff like Alabama did in 2017. So it's like, I understand it's a different committee every year, but I just thought it was weird how they wouldn't just go ahead and move them back. But I get the point.
[00:48:22] Speaker C: Yeah.
The reason that it looks so bad is because this had been like weeks in the making. I mean, if you go back to even last week where you had Oregon, Ohio State, Texas, Alabama, in that order, kind of like you sat down like Ohio State, there probably wasn't going to be a realistic shot they were going to get in unless every favorite lost.
And even then it might have been tough. But this was just something that came weeks ago where you're looking at it and going, okay, yeah, Alabama had to jump so many teams to get in. I mean, like you said, there was no team outside of number six had ever gotten into the playoff and Alabama had to jump.
I guess they didn't jump Texas, but they had to jump Ohio State. Oregon, Florida State in a know that probably shouldn't have been the case going.
[00:49:19] Speaker B: Into the week, right? But granted, now the only the only team that they're really jumping there is Florida State because Ohio State sat at home and didn't have an opportunity to make themselves better and Oregon obviously lost. That was the crazy thing is, right, we're sitting here and we're talking about all this is chaos. This was not anywhere close to the most chaotic scenario that could have happened. There were a number of things that could have happened that could have completely shooken up things.
[00:49:49] Speaker C: Iowa had a real potential.
[00:49:51] Speaker B: If Iowa would have won a three nothing thriller, there is a real chance that there was no Big Ten team if Oregon had beat Washington. What do you do then?
[00:50:06] Speaker A: One thing about that Iowa Michigan game, I know the final score was like 26 nothing, but Michigan, they had two touchdowns. Both those touchdowns were possessions they had inside the ten yard line. It's like if they had like an 87 yard punt return where he's forced out like the five they score on the first play, then they had another one where they called it incomplete on the field, changed it after review somehow to a fumble. And then Michigan got the ball like the six yard line and they scored because it was that and then they got it outside the ten, but they called the offense coordinator for he was yelling. I can't remember the exact penalty, but it was basically unsports line conduct or something. He was yelling at the official after they changed it and then they gave him half the distance. So then they're inside the ten yard line, they scored. It could have been a very interesting scenario if it was still under ten points. And again, we're just at ten points in the fourth quarter, didn't work out that way now.
[00:51:10] Speaker B: Oh, Iowa football never change.
[00:51:13] Speaker A: I love that defense. I was watching that game. I love that defense. I think Nick Saban is watching that tape and like, what can I do in this Rose Bowl that Iowa did now for the selection committee, I know we've mentioned it a couple of times about how it's weird that they have the ties to the universities with the twelve team playoff. Do we think we still keep the same type of selection process with the committee and everything?
[00:51:38] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, I don't see any wholesale changes coming.
I do think that there could be a little bit of a shake up if I'm sure there's going to be a number of teams that will try and stir some stuff up.
With Florida state leading the way, obviously.
I think it probably could be a little bit better, maybe take the school ties out.
But it's going to be hard to completely escape the school ties and still have people that know what they're doing, right? Yeah. Because in an ideal world, is it probably all former players and coaches? Yes, but that also brings in a whole nother level of things just get sicko's committee to just yeah, I think.
[00:52:24] Speaker C: It would stay the same and I think it'll actually get much better because that twelve team playoff does include automatic kind of qualifiers. You win the SEC championship, you're getting.
[00:52:35] Speaker A: In, you get well. We have to see how it is now with the Pac Twelve and everything.
[00:52:40] Speaker C: But I think it's like five conference champions.
[00:52:44] Speaker A: It's supposed to be like the five power, five champs, and then you're supposed to have one group of five. But now with the Pac Twelve only having the two teams, I think something's going to change with that.
[00:52:55] Speaker C: But I was just going to say I think with automatic qualifiers, it's going to make it a lot easier. It's going to be very different because I think looking at it in terms of if you just look at the rankings now, like Oklahoma was twelve, I don't think Oklahoma would be like a twelve team in a twelve team playoff, they're ranked twelve.
But I just think it's probably going to get a lot better in the sense of just you're not going to need some of these very intense debates like Alabama and Florida State. I could imagine that that room. I don't know if there's any Alabama or Florida State people in the room. I don't well, even if there were.
[00:53:33] Speaker B: And I believe get out. I believe that. Yeah. Like you said, when they discuss their team, they're asked to step.
[00:53:40] Speaker A: So we have the one guy who's the Michigan athletic director who is supposed to step aside.
I don't know if he has to leave the room, but he's not allowed to talk about Michigan when they're discussing Michigan, but he is allowed to talk about who Michigan's opponent is going to be. I wonder if he might have been the one guy saying no, Florida State needs to be in.
[00:53:58] Speaker C: Yeah. So right now, pulling up an article from the Athletic, the twelve team playoff right now the top four seeds would be Michigan, Washington, Texas, bama, number five would be Florida State. And that's the last Power Five champ.
[00:54:15] Speaker A: Alabama would still have the buy.
[00:54:18] Speaker C: Well, yeah, I mean, he's taking the rankings that the committee just put out and putting them into the model would.
[00:54:24] Speaker A: Have got a home playoff game.
[00:54:25] Speaker C: Yeah. Six would have been Georgia seven, ohio State, Oregon at eight, Missouri at nine, penn State at ten, ole Miss at eleven, and then Liberty twelve. For the Group of Five. Nod.
[00:54:37] Speaker B: It would be Ole Miss penn State.
[00:54:39] Speaker C: It would be Ole Miss at Georgia.
Penn State. It would be Penn State at Ohio State. No, was eleven and Georgia six.
[00:54:52] Speaker A: Okay? Yeah, I misheard them.
[00:54:54] Speaker C: But anyway, I was going to say they're showing me the tournament.
[00:54:58] Speaker A: Well, here's one thing that you got to take.
So the Group of Five gets the automatic bid. Do they get the twelve seed? Yes, I think you have to go.
[00:55:08] Speaker B: I think it depends.
[00:55:10] Speaker C: Year after year, obviously, Cincinnati, the year they made the that Group of Five team probably wouldn't be twelve. But the point is the Group of Five team or a Group of Five team needs to be in, but their conference champ, it can go up.
[00:55:25] Speaker B: It's like in the NCAA tournament when you have to play in the first four.
[00:55:28] Speaker A: No, but I'm thinking when they're going to be debating this.
[00:55:32] Speaker C: That would be the debate.
[00:55:33] Speaker A: It's going to be like you have an automatic qualifier. Should it not be that those automatic qualifiers get the higher seat?
[00:55:40] Speaker C: Well, okay.
[00:55:41] Speaker B: The automatic qualifiers would all I'd say.
[00:55:43] Speaker C: Is that if you pumped Liberty up one, it would go from Liberty at Florida State to Liberty at Georgia.
[00:55:50] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:55:51] Speaker A: So what I'm saying is put Liberty at that six, give them a home playoff game.
[00:55:56] Speaker C: Yeah. I don't know if I disagree with you. I just think that, I mean, I.
[00:55:59] Speaker A: Think you have to reward them somehow.
[00:56:01] Speaker B: Not just be like to be honest, you're Georgia.
[00:56:04] Speaker C: Georgia only into the playoff.
[00:56:05] Speaker B: Georgia only gets to play with ten men.
That's how you balance it out.
[00:56:09] Speaker C: Bach Browers is not allowed to be.
[00:56:11] Speaker B: On the field just play blindfolded.
[00:56:13] Speaker A: You put them in the playoff and then you go, yeah, we put you in, but now you have to go into a stadium with 100,000 people.
[00:56:21] Speaker C: Well, I mean, in theory, if they were a good enough group of five team, they could host I mean that's not like out of it's not like they can't host a team. It's just this is the rankings that.
[00:56:32] Speaker A: They are an undefeated team. So maybe they should just be ahead.
[00:56:34] Speaker B: Of everybody the CFP used. So I know that we're talking about the twelve team. I don't think we ever fully talked about the playoff. I know we've got some time, sorry.
[00:56:45] Speaker C: Last thing about the twelve oh, go ahead. In this scenario, Alabama would either get Liberty or Florida State.
That would be the game that Alabama got.
[00:56:57] Speaker B: The winner of both of those games look more similar than anybody is willing to admit.
[00:57:02] Speaker C: That is a but imagine with all the chaos this year, imagine if next year win a similar situation. And that's the scenario. You get the two teams that they were arguing to the utmost to get in, they just play each other. Now you just know.
[00:57:19] Speaker A: You know what is funny about it is that group of five team in Liberty getting the nod right there. I understand they're undefeated. I also don't think they're the best group of five team. I think there's two teams that are better than Liberty. Yeah liberty played I think no power five opponents this season SMU two losses only to power five opponents. And then Troy lost to one power five opponent and then James Madison those are their only two.
[00:57:49] Speaker C: Mean there's probably.
[00:57:50] Speaker B: Better all right before we go get into the actual matchups obviously you've got.
[00:57:56] Speaker A: I mean we gotta like them. We can talk about these.
[00:57:59] Speaker C: Certain school down the road that has to go to play Maryland and whatever.
[00:58:04] Speaker B: We've got Michigan and Alabama in the Rose Bowl and then I believe it's.
[00:58:12] Speaker A: At least one of us will be sorry.
[00:58:14] Speaker C: This is like God work his magic with this. You have Michigan and Alabama, two big football brands in the Rose Bowl, the biggest football stadium, the most iconic college football stadium, and Alabama wears white, number one. Picturesque, guys.
[00:58:31] Speaker B: Michigan most wins in the history of college football. Alabama tied for second with Ohio State. It could not okay, look, honestly, right now, if you're at ESPN and you're saying which would you rather have? Would you rather have like the definitive college football matchup, michigan versus Alabama at the Rose Bowl, or would you rather have Michigan and Florida State? There is not a single television executive who would say, let's give me Florida.
[00:59:06] Speaker A: State if we wanted it.
[00:59:08] Speaker B: Games going to be must watch if.
[00:59:09] Speaker A: We wanted these games. I understand having it at the Rose Bowl. I understand how it worked. I also think what would have been better for travel wise, what would have been better for possible product wise would have been Vegas. No, if you had them and then you were able it wasn't possible, right? Because of how it worked out with two undefeateds, two one loss teams, obviously the one loss teams were going to be behind. But if you could had Michigan and Washington in the Rose Bowl Pac twelve Big Ten, how it's traditionally been, and then had Alabama Texas in New Orleans and then they meet probably whoever win obviously would play and hopefully it would have been Alabama Michigan in the national championship. But this still sets up for what I brought up last week. If Alabama wins and Texas wins, alabama and Texas in Houston for the national championship.
[01:00:04] Speaker B: You want to talk about most watched game?
[01:00:07] Speaker C: You want to talk about ticket price?
[01:00:09] Speaker B: Ding ding ding. Oh my God, I already saw it.
I think it's $1,500 to get nosebleeds into the game.
[01:00:16] Speaker A: That is why I'm hoping my request goes through to where I can get a little bit cheaper of a ticket. I probably won't get the cut off for the complimentary student ticket, but $750 compared to 1500 and it's lower bowl. I'll take that now.
[01:00:32] Speaker C: One thing to be living Moss, one.
[01:00:34] Speaker A: Thing I have talked about with a.
[01:00:37] Speaker B: Couple of different people free ads.
[01:00:39] Speaker A: I don't think I've talked about it on this show, but I talked with a couple of people, especially over the weekend. We were talking about it with the playoff selection and we were kind of know if we wanted to get rid of all know ties to universities, you could still have the playoff model. But bring back the computers, bring back the BCS system. And the BCS system this year has actually been pretty close to what the rankings have been. Here's the interesting thing. I have what it would have been today picking the four team playoffs.
This everybody would have lost their mind. So you have Michigan, one, washington two, alabama three, florida State four, Texas left out.
[01:01:19] Speaker B: I will say that every year for the past the nine years before that the model had been exactly correct picking who made the playoff.
[01:01:30] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:01:30] Speaker B: So maybe they still are using twelve team playoff.
[01:01:33] Speaker A: I'm just saying bring back some computers, you don't have to worry about different athletic directors wanting their teams in or whatever.
[01:01:40] Speaker B: Chad GPT accidentally picks Rutgers to play in the College Football Playoff. That's what? According to AWS IBM Watson.
[01:01:50] Speaker C: IBM. Watson projected that Iowa would have had the best ODS to beat Washington. So they are in.
[01:01:59] Speaker B: Or you could just imagine what you could cook up mean.
[01:02:02] Speaker A: Or you could go with I saw a clip from Mike Leach a few years ago where he was talking about how every other league has figured it out from high school to the NFL, just Division One FBS college football hasn't figured it out. He used the one A, but every other one it's like you win your conference. You're in. You have some wild cards here. It's four teams, four best teams, maybe four most deserves a group of guys.
[01:02:33] Speaker C: Lock themselves in a room, come out and tell you who's going to get.
[01:02:37] Speaker B: In the Shadow Council grapevine.
[01:02:40] Speaker A: Texas tells you at least with the twelveTH team, we do have some of those automatic qualifiers. So, you know if you win those, you're in.
[01:02:48] Speaker C: Yeah. And it's going to be like this time of year, you would get genuine.
I don't think we'd be debating who would be in as far as who should get ranked.
[01:03:05] Speaker B: So right. If you have a twelve team playoff, it shifts the discussion. Right. We're not talking about four and five anymore. We're talking about twelve and 13 and 14.
It changes the discussion. And it's going to get really interesting because when you start letting two loss, maybe three loss team into the playoff, you're going to start saying like, oh, if somebody got really hot at the end of the So team, comes out. They have two losses early in the year, maybe a bad loss in there, but then they start getting real hot. Or they show you something in the last week of the season. Like, could they get thrown in there at twelve? It's going to change the debate, but it will be the same.
[01:03:43] Speaker A: I think last year, a two loss Alabama team getting in on a twelve team playoff, they could have done some damage. I don't know how. We'll have to see how the actual teams are. It's probably going to stink this year.
[01:03:55] Speaker B: It's going to be awful.
[01:03:57] Speaker C: Yeah. Next year there's only going to be two teams that actually could win the national championship.
[01:04:01] Speaker A: We talked about it, how this would have been the perfect year for twelve team playoff. Well, before they decided to go to the twelve team, they had talked about doing a six team instead of the twelve team. And then you would have still got Florida, you would have still got Georgia.
I think that would have been good. I think a twelve team playoff would still be good.
We'll see how it is next year and the years following. What will be interesting is I think so next year, first year, the pro team playoff, you have people kind of waiting and seeing. That's why the SEC kind of decided to keep that eight game conference schedule because they want to see how they're rewarded or not rewarded for their strength of schedule and everything. So the first year is kind of like a test run for some conferences and then that second year you're going to really see like if the SEC is like, okay, we'll go to a nine game conference schedule now because we're going to get in with our two or three losses against SEC opponents.
[01:05:03] Speaker B: Yeah. Also we've got to throw in the other game right before we've only got a few minutes left. We're already cooking overtime.
Texas and washington are rematch of a bowl game from just, I believe, one year.
Yes. So I think truly this has the potential to be a fantastic playoff. Both games look very good.
[01:05:24] Speaker C: Yeah.
I think this is a very maybe not rare instance, but I read somewhere that the semifinal games have an average margin of victory of, like, 19 points.
[01:05:35] Speaker B: I don't know that we're going to.
[01:05:37] Speaker A: Get I don't know if Alabama has contributed to that with a 38 nothing.
[01:05:41] Speaker C: Win and a couple of dominant wins.
[01:05:44] Speaker A: That dominant win against Washington in 2016.
[01:05:47] Speaker B: But you also had some fraudulent programs contributed to those at Notre Dame, Oklahoma, but no comment.
[01:05:56] Speaker C: But, yeah, I don't think either of these games are going to be double digit point victories. To be honest.
[01:06:03] Speaker A: I can think of one.
[01:06:04] Speaker B: The ODS are very close as of right now. I know that obviously we are a month away from these games. Then so much can happen. But the ODS are looking good right now.
[01:06:13] Speaker C: It will be kind of cool to see.
I wonder if a guy like Pennix going into that game. I believe they choose a Heisman in between. Right.
[01:06:28] Speaker B: It definitely happens.
[01:06:29] Speaker C: Championship.
[01:06:30] Speaker A: They'll pick it. It'll be before the first game, like, soon. Yeah, it'll be like December 20 or so.
[01:06:36] Speaker C: You got to look I mean, the.
[01:06:37] Speaker A: Votes have to be in by tomorrow, I believe.
[01:06:39] Speaker C: Yeah. I know that it's not the national championship, but you got to look like guys like Pennix and Ewers, who I don't think yours was ever going to win the Heisman, but those are two phenomenal players that might get fueled by that.
Just strictly Washington versus Texas.
I have a feeling that might be like a 45, 42, something like that, where it's just a couple of punts.
[01:07:04] Speaker A: We wanted to go ahead and do our predictions.
[01:07:06] Speaker B: No, sorry.
[01:07:07] Speaker C: I was just saying that's we will.
[01:07:09] Speaker B: Not do predictions a month out from both of the games.
[01:07:12] Speaker A: I'm ready.
[01:07:14] Speaker B: We will hold off on certainly. We've surely got a couple more episodes of the Low Tide coming and I'll be here potentially maybe a Rose Bowl edition.
[01:07:30] Speaker A: There's at least one of us going to be out there, maybe two.
Joe, get your stuff together.
[01:07:36] Speaker C: I was going to say I mean, listen, this is from Maryland to California.
[01:07:41] Speaker A: It's once in a lifetime, Joe.
[01:07:42] Speaker C: No, I know the meaning. There's an actual way. I get a ticket for $20.
[01:07:49] Speaker B: Find a way.
[01:07:50] Speaker C: You're just going I'd go for 20.
[01:07:53] Speaker A: I'll put it in hitchhike. How much would you pay?
[01:07:58] Speaker C: I don't know, to be honest.
[01:08:00] Speaker A: Would you give your kidney would you pay in installments? Because right now I have if I.
[01:08:06] Speaker C: Could barter body parts.
[01:08:07] Speaker B: Sideline pass for a kidney. Yes or no? Yes.
[01:08:14] Speaker A: It was question versus Joe.
[01:08:15] Speaker B: Travel covered food covered, everything.
[01:08:17] Speaker C: You only need one.
[01:08:18] Speaker B: That's true.
[01:08:19] Speaker C: Yeah, why not?
[01:08:21] Speaker B: Okay.
[01:08:21] Speaker C: All right.
[01:08:21] Speaker A: Sideline pass. I might just say you can kill me afterwards.
[01:08:26] Speaker B: Well, after the national championship game. After the national championship. Well, depending on what happens if I.
[01:08:32] Speaker C: Get an opportunity to go to Houston.
Houston? That's, like, infinitely easier in the hour that we've gone. I've considered it more and more, so I'll put an end.
[01:08:47] Speaker B: Well, I think giving up your kidney to go to the rolls of bowl, there's no better way to end off this episode of the Low Tide. Thank you for joining us. We will be back.
When will we be back? Well, that's an interesting question. I believe we'll be back next week.
[01:09:01] Speaker A: We will be here next week. We will be in talks over our cellular devices, figuring out if there will be a show next week.
[01:09:07] Speaker B: Stay tuned. Yeah. Thank you for joining us.
[01:09:10] Speaker C: We got to talk. Is this the most deserving show or the best? Do we have to put it on the air?
[01:09:16] Speaker A: I think it's both.
[01:09:17] Speaker C: Is there any shows out there where, like, a host went down?
[01:09:21] Speaker B: Well, we're an undefeated conference champion.
[01:09:23] Speaker C: Yeah, we are. Yeah, we got a lot.
[01:09:25] Speaker B: Anyway, good night, folks.
