Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Speaker A: W Vua FM, Tuscaloosa.
[00:00:13] Speaker B: Welcome in, ladies and gentlemen, to the low tide here on 90.7, the caps. And we got a special start time this week. We're moved up an hour due to our Grammys coverage. That will be coming up right after for us. Nicholas, Joe, Adam, how are we doing?
[00:00:30] Speaker C: It's good. The weather's not quite there today, but I'll take it. We're back, all three of us, after I missed last week. So happy to just be.
[00:00:41] Speaker A: I'm good, you know, another weekend of traveling with adapted athletics. And I do want to point out that Joe has showed up with an Orioles hoodie on, already moved past the Ravens defeat. He has moved on to next baseball season. They did just get a big pickup, didn't they?
[00:00:59] Speaker C: Yeah, they did. They just traded for Corbin Bruins from the brewers. So I'm pretty psyched. But this is also like one of the only, like my rain jacket still to be washed from a week ago or something, and this was one of the only things that kept kind of the water at bay.
[00:01:18] Speaker B: Yeah, true. It's very rainy night here in Tuscaloosa, and hopefully it's not rainy wherever you're joining us from on the live three, six, five or tune in app. Got to get the quick plug. So we'll start this week with tide hoops, obviously.
We'll go in chronological order. I guess Alabama traveled to Georgia at one point. They're down 16 in this game. It looks like it's going to be an absolute disaster. Similar to, I believe it was a few years prior, that Alabama had had some struggles with Georgia. But, Joe, you want to break this one down for us?
[00:01:54] Speaker C: Yeah, it was.
Well, as the old I blanket on his name, the old Alabama basketball cooch.
[00:02:05] Speaker B: Avery Johnson.
[00:02:06] Speaker C: Yeah, Avery Johnson. That's who it was. Avery Johnson was. It was a game of two halves. Alabama was down by 16, went into halftime trailing 41 to 27. And I mean, it was just an all around terrible half for Alabama. They only shot or they only made two threes, was two of eleven from deep, one for four from free throw under kind of 43% from the field. And on the flip side, Georgia was seven of 13 from three, essentially making anything they wanted. Really. Everything was going down. And Alabama, it was just a really problematic half.
Maybe the performance wasn't too dissimilar in that first half to what we saw against Tennessee and Knoxville a couple of weeks ago in that kind of really big loss for Alabama. But then, like you said, in the second round, they turned it or second half they turned it around, scored 58 points in the second half, shot 50% from three, over 60% from the field, and held Georgia to only four three point attempts. They didn't make any under 45% from the field. And, yeah, at the end, they kind of ran away with it. This was by no means nine point game, kind of in how it was being played, but, yeah, I mean, credit to Alabama, a lot of their team. Grant Nelson had a really good game with 20 points. Mark Sears had 23. He's continuing to play at, I think, an all american level of a point guard. So, yeah, it was quite a special day in Athens.
[00:03:48] Speaker A: Yeah, I was watching it from the comfort of my living room, and first I was a little late getting to it, didn't see the start, and I turn it on and it's nine two, and I'm like, okay, not the best start. And then it's like, okay, are we going to play some defense anytime today? And then we're down 17 to two. I stuck with it, watched the full game and just seeing, because we had last year, right when they played Auburn, they got down 17, came back, won that game, and we hadn't really seen this team go down like that and still be able to fight back and win. They've made it close, and they had a lot of close games. And then this one, you saw them fight back and then still cover the spread, and I really enjoyed it. You saw some players kind of step up. Grant Nelson, a bunch of people had been talking about how he wasn't really performing, how they thought he would when he transferred in. And then in that game, he kind of took over in that second half.
Not like a scoring leader, but he played some really good minutes, played really good on defense. I think Nato's even said he's probably our best defensive five man right now. And then after that, watching their performance against Mississippi State, that was one that they finally look like they're putting both sides of the ball together. So I'm really excited for the rest.
[00:05:11] Speaker B: Of the, you know, really weird games. First half, they played absolutely terrible. I believe for the first, like eight minutes of the game, they only scored two points, which is just brutal. But then I really find a way to close this one out and come out with a win. And they come out of this and they still only have one conference loss. It could have gone badly pretty easily, but you hold on to the lead in the SEC, and these are the kinds of games that you have to win over the course of the season. This is a character building win. When you have to go through a lot of adversity and you still manage to come out on the other end with the victory. So at the end of the day, a good game, a good character builder for Nate Oates and the squad.
[00:06:02] Speaker C: Yeah. And the big thing for me just to kind of put a bow on this game was the fact that in the first half, Alabama got out, rebounded 27 to seven by Georgia. I mean, there was just a horrific display from on the glass by the Crimson Tide. And then that second half, they come back and they actually outrebounded Georgia 19 to twelve in that second half. And that just kind of. Nate Oates has talked about over the course of the season just how he wants his team to be tougher and more physical and kind of get the rebounds because they're not exactly a big team. There isn't that one big, like we talked Betty Yako or even Herb Jones, who was able to gather a lighter rebounds.
This seems a little different. So any help that they can get on the know is much needed from anywhere on the court.
[00:06:58] Speaker B: And then after this game, then they take on Mississippi State here at home. And this is like a complete polar opposite type of game.
[00:07:07] Speaker C: Yeah, it was. Although I will say the shooting was not quite there last night, especially in the first half. They were eight for 29 from three, which is under 30%. It's essentially 28%.
But they did. Yeah, they had, I believe it was an 18 to two run to end the half over the final five ish minutes. And that kind of really put him ahead, because before that, it was 29 22 Alabama and Mississippi State was kind of clawing and fighting and scrapping, and then all of a sudden, I kind of talked about this during the updates. The two mos, mo Diabody and mo waggy, just were like catalysts for Alabama in that first half.
[00:07:52] Speaker A: Yeah. The most impressive thing for me was you talked about how poorly they shot the three, and they still ended up with 99 points in the game. And it's just kind of one of those things where it's like showing everybody like, hey, if we hit the threes, we're good, but even if we're not, we can still put up 100 points. And I know that was something that I had even mentioned how a lot of people say how it's lived by the three, die by the three, but it's really about the ball movement and being able to get to the basket, and then if you have an open three, getting it out there. And they took a lot of shots. They just couldn't get a bunch of them to fall, but 99 points impressive. And then holding them down to what was the. I don't have the score but they held them into the 67 point. So I was very impressed with the performance and I'm hoping that hopefully shoot a little bit better. But that defensive performance and then being able to still get points carries over into Wednesday when they go to.
[00:08:54] Speaker B: I mean, this is another type of character building game. What they often say, nAto's teams live by the three, die by the three. Clearly not true in this case. They find a way to dominate this game even when they're not shooting the best from the field.
Something interesting that we have to talk about and this is kind of a trend over the last two games. Nick Pringle, suspended from the team, has been in street clothes for the last two games.
Are we worried about this team without Nick Pringle?
[00:09:32] Speaker C: I wouldn't maybe say that now after these last two games because I think he's a big miss in the sense that he's experienced, been on the team for a couple of years, has had a couple of really good games down low and being kind of an interior force of sorts. But with the way that Grant Nelson's playing. I know he didn't necessarily play great offensively against Mississippi State, but had to guard Tolu Smith, who's a really tough player, kind of held his own in the second half of that game. He also got five rebounds and guys that are stepping up from not just even the big man spot inside. I mean, Aaron Estrada had eight rebounds in yesterday's game. Sam Walters at seven, O'Dio body with nine. He was a rebound away from a double double. So I'm not maybe as worried because it seems like it's more of a. They don't necessarily need the one guy to rebound everything. It seems like they have at any .5 guys on the court that can all kind of get inside and get physical right now at least.
[00:10:42] Speaker B: Well, another thing, okay, we got to give a shout out to Kai spears who came in at the very end of this game and just newly scholarshiped. Yeah, exactly. You love to see that. Just comes in and immediately drains a three hits both of his free throws, gets five points in like literally a minute of game time. But you got to love that, right?
[00:11:06] Speaker C: Yeah. It was kind of nice to see over the course of last week hearing that he was one of the guys that got offered a scholarship and it was very cool to see because he's always the guy where in these types of games he's coming in kind of later stages of the game when the quote walk ons would come in, but now he's not a walk on. So he's a scholarship player. So Nato said it did in his post game press conference. He's a scholarship player, so he's got to perform.
He's got to perform when he's in there. And five points in one minute's pretty good.
[00:11:41] Speaker B: So another thing we got to quickly talk about Mark Sears, not on any of the big award watch lists. This might be the biggest snub in a long time.
[00:11:55] Speaker C: Yeah, it's very rare that one of the leading scorers in the SEC is not on one of those. I think connect is first in points per game in the SEC and then Sears is second. So top guard in the SEC.
It's crazy that he's not on anything.
[00:12:14] Speaker B: Yeah. Neither the Bob Koozie or the Jerry west award watch.
It's, it's just know, I think he had earned, what, his second SEC player of the week this past week.
You know, it just does not, it just seems borderline disrespectful. And you've got to wonder why you would leave someone who has played as well as anybody in the country this year off that list on a team that has performed pretty well and leading the SEC.
[00:12:54] Speaker C: Yeah, well, I believe it's eight of his last nine games. Yeah, eight of his last nine games he scored over 20 points and he's absolutely, he's obviously the best maybe scorer on this team by far. But just his abilities outside of that, with just kind of the other stuff, he's shooting 45% from 353 percent from the field. So I don't get it. I do wonder, though, if those early losses, the Purdue's, the Arizona's, the Creighton losses, kind of maybe wiped Alabama basketball like kind of off the college basketball map for a little bit. And then the Tennessee loss and kind of their big, maybe not returning game, but a big game for them in the SEC as they tried to come back from those three losses and you lose by 20. So maybe it's just, there's no big like last year, for example, with Brandon Miller and the hype around the team. There just wasn't that this year. So that's the only thing I can think of. But still. Yeah, it's absurd to think that people say that they know ball when they don't.
[00:14:05] Speaker B: It's just wild to me. You have a guy that is one of the leading scorers in the SEC, if not in the country on what Ken Palm would say is the second best offense in all of college basketball. It's just true head scratcher to.
[00:14:25] Speaker A: Understand where Joe's coming from. And that could definitely be taking that kind of excitement around the team because at the know they had already had, I believe, two losses going into that three game stretch, but losing those three in a row kind of takes the air out of at least the national conversation of the team. But if we're looking at what Mark Sears is able to do in those games, against Purdue he had 35 points and then against Creighton he had 19, had a shot that would have tied the game that rimmed out at the very end. And then against Arizona he had twelve. So he kind of went down over those three games, but especially against Purdue, he was the only reason Albin was in the game getting 35 and then he was still scoring in double digits as a point guard the rest of the way. So it's like he has not been really the problem with the team. I mean, if we want to talk about maybe he wasn't playing the best defensively even though nobody was playing defense in any of these games, but I think even with the losses around the program, he's kind of been the bright spot this season. So I think he should have still been up there and we'll see if he's able to get like at least SEC player.
[00:15:43] Speaker C: Yeah, and even that one thing, I mean, he went to that Arizona game, he only had twelve points and went down. He also did have six seals and six rebounds in that game with three assists. So it's not like he had a bad day just by not scoring.
[00:15:56] Speaker A: And a block. And a block.
[00:15:58] Speaker C: Yeah, that's true.
So yeah, it's a travesty. Like we've said that Mark Sears is not on any of these.
[00:16:06] Speaker B: Well, the one good thing is that you couldn't ask for better motivation, better fuel, especially as we get closer to the SEC tournament to the mean even.
[00:16:18] Speaker C: These last, sorry to cut you off there, but even, I mean, you got Auburn on Wednesday, you got Kentucky down the road, Tennessee again later in the season.
There is enough motivation for those games alone.
[00:16:33] Speaker B: Yeah. So when we come back here on 90.7, we're going to be talking Alabama softball. We got the season starting what, on the eigth. So we'll have everything you need to know here on 90.7 of WVU AFM 90.7 a division of student media at the University of Alabama. Support us by leaving a review rating or following us on x at WVUA FM Sports welcome back into the load side here on 90.7, the capstone and streaming live on the live three, six, five and tune in apps. Still working through that. At least it's better than last week when I had to run the controls. We're glad to have Joe back. Adam's here, I'm here.
We're talking Alabama softball.
Very strange season last year. Such an up and down season. A true roller coaster season.
This is a team that had 22 losses. This is the most since 1999, but yet this team still goes to the College World Series.
Such an interesting year last year for Alabama softball.
[00:18:07] Speaker A: Yeah, and it was very interesting. We're watching throughout the season and you're hearing all the noise from the outside saying this is one of the worst Alabama teams that Patrick Murphy's had and everything. Like the only bright spots, Montana fouts and stuff. And then she's hurt and can barely go through regionals and super regionals. And then Alabama still finds a way to make the women's College World Series. And that might have been one of my favorite moments from last year when they finally sealed it to go and you just have Montana like basically crying on the field and I wish they could have made a little bit more run when they actually got out to Oklahoma City, but wasn't meant to be. And now this year it's like what? Now we lost what many considered the best player on the team and maybe the best player in college softball.
But there's some bright spots that we'll get into in a. Yeah, yeah.
[00:18:58] Speaker C: I'll just kind of echo what you guys I to be fair, I was one of those people who I was know Montana Faults might just be it for this team, but watching them towards kind of the last half of the season, I knew that they had talent and it seemed to come through in certain situations and just kind of fall apart in others. So I thought if they played their game and had a good day, they could beat anybody. So them making it, I was surprised that how far they made it, but still I wasn't maybe necessarily as shocked as some others because they saw it a pretty solid roster last year, but this year, like we said, very different.
[00:19:42] Speaker B: Yeah, it's going to be an interesting season. A very different season. Obviously you're coming off with most losses since 1999, but still a trip to the College World Series, even though you do lose that opening game to Tennessee and then you're eliminated by Stanford. Shortly thereafter, the USA Today and the coaches poll has them at number twelve.
An interesting spot. Obviously, you've got perennial powerhouse Oklahoma up there at number one. Now, it is interesting, should be noted, oklahoma, Texas not in the SEC for softball this season. I believe it's next season that they will join for softball. But obviously you've got Oklahoma at one, Tennessee at two, Georgia at six, LSU at 14, Arkansas at 16, Florida at 17, Auburn at 19 and Kentucky at 25.
So pretty stacked. SEC once again.
[00:20:39] Speaker C: Yeah, that's going to be an interesting thing to see for Alabama this year with, like we said, kind of losing some of the top end players. Just how are they going to handle it when you got to play at Georgia for three games to early in your calendar going and playing Arkansas and Tennessee and just these teams that with last year's squad, maybe you're thinking and looking around and saying, okay, well, maybe Faust pitches this game, we'll win that one and that could set us up for a really good weekend where now you kind of have to rediscover the team a little bit and find out who can contribute in those moments.
[00:21:25] Speaker A: Yeah, obviously you can't dance around it. The biggest loss from last year was Montana Faust. But what I will say Jayla Torrance returned. She's going to be a senior this year. She's the one that kind of stepped up probably the most after Montana was hurt late in the last season. Last season she ended up pitching 94.1 innings, having 75 strikeouts. Batting average against her was only a 182 era, two six, seven. But she did give up nine home runs and we kind of saw that once she was playing some more of the top level competition, but also pitching staff wise. Brought in two transfers. Alia Johnson grew up in Alabama, went to LSU last year as a freshman. She's coming in as a sophomore back to Alabama. And then we have Caleb Beaver, who is a grad student, transferred from central Arkansas and she has been named to the top 50 watch list for softball collegiate player of the year this season. Now, just to give anybody that didn't follow her last year, she ended up pitching 140. No, she pitched 201 innings and had they need to work on the stat sheet. It's huge. But 201 innings and 194 strikeouts, so maybe she's not as good as Montana will be. We'll have to see. We'll have to see once it's a full season of SEC competition. But that's really exciting, seeing somebody who has a ton of experience, one of the best. And then obviously she's already being put on for player of the year watch list. And then what most people said was lacking on Alabama's recent teams has been the offensive production, and I don't know exactly how good it's going to be, but they did make some new hires on the coaching staff, bringing back Kayla Broad, who was obviously on that 2012 national championship team. And so she's going to be an assistant coach this year. Maybe she can kind of teach some of these players a little bit better hitting lessons. When she was at Alabama, she finished with a batting average of 471 and had 182 stolen bases. So that's over her four years and she was three time All American because she hasn't been out of softball, she's been working at ESPN. Hopefully she comes in and teaches these ladies how to become better hitters.
[00:24:09] Speaker B: Yeah, you'd love to see know because I would say the one big thing, and we've mentioned it several times, is that this team doesn't really have any superstars. Right? Like you're so used to just loaded Alabama softball teams with the kind of talent that Murphy has been able to attract here.
It doesn't seem like there's a lot of those names that really jump off the page to you. You mentioned a couple of them, Adam. Are we worried about that? Are we worried about the fact that there isn't those kind of superstar players this season?
[00:24:45] Speaker A: No, for me, not really. I think it's going to be more of the team we saw last year how once who everybody relied on went down and they were kind of able to rally and still be able to make the World Series. I think this year, having that whole offseason to come prepare, obviously they did very well in the fall games that they had.
Obviously Patrick Murphy is still there, been there since 1999, hasn't missed an NCAA regional, only missed one super regional back in 2022 and obviously it says 2020 because that whole thing got canceled. But Patrick Murphy is still there. Brought in some very good hires. Obviously the transfers that have come in, I think with how this team is built now and even though we don't have those superstar names that you're accustomed to at Alabama, some of these people, I think middle of the season you might be talking about, those are the superstars.
[00:25:52] Speaker C: Know, with, even without those superstars, I think it's going know make a way for a little perhaps like a know of a team. And like you said, Adam, with how they handled kind of the end of last season, losing their superstar in Montana Fauci in the season, just how they rallied, I would not be too worried.
[00:26:13] Speaker B: Yeah, I'd really look for you mentioned Jayla Torrance had some fantastic games after Montana faults went down and really became somebody who they leaned on very heavily in the postseason. At the end of the year, I would really look for someone like her to step up once again to continue to be the kind of veteran leader that they need on this team. You're bringing in a couple of new names.
Obviously, if you be a name to the watch list for top player in collegiate softball, you should be pretty excited about that.
I don't think that there's really going to be an issue. I mean, obviously we'll see as the season comes around. But I would expect another good season from Alabama softball and I wouldn't be surprised to see them improve on last year's season. As far as losses, I would not expect another 22 loss season if it was me, but let's talk about that. So what do we think would be some realistic expectations for this team this upcoming season?
What do we feel like would be a good performance from this team?
[00:27:23] Speaker A: Well, for I'm if we're just going off history of the program, players that are coming back, players that were added to me, anything less than the super regional, everybody's going to look at as a failure. It's almost the same problem that you have with Alabama football. Even with the new coach coming in with him. It's like if he doesn't make the playoff, especially with a twelve team playoff, then people are going to start losing their minds with softball. Only missing the one super regional. Super regional started, I believe, in 2005, only missing the one back in 2022. And some people, it was like, oh, the sky's falling. They missed the super regional for the first time. I'm not saying you have to make the College World Series, but you at least need to host a regional and I think make the Supers.
[00:28:13] Speaker C: Yeah, I do too. I do. Off the back of know, like you said, adam, even with some of these losses, the standard still has to is still kind of there with this program. So I think anything less than that is obviously going to be seen as bad.
I'll just kind of agree and keep it moving here.
[00:28:34] Speaker B: Yeah, honestly, same for me.
You'd like to see them improve in the win loss category a little bit there.
Anything less than 22 losses would probably be fantastic.
They finished fifth last year in the SEC.
They have to go into the SEC tournament as a five seed. They ended up playing pretty well. They fall to Tennessee in the semifinals, who ended up winning the SEC tournament that year. So you can't complain too much about, you know, you'd like to see a pretty similar performance in the SEC tournament and another trip to the super regionals would be, I think, a success for this team, especially considering the fact that you lost probably one of the best players in the history of your, you know, it's always going to be tough, but Alabama softball has a legacy of excellence for a reason, and you would expect to see that upheld next year.
[00:29:39] Speaker A: Yeah, and even you lose Montana, we've said it multiple times, but also like Ali Shipman and some of the other people who were big time players. But Alabama always seems to be able to kind of like reload and hopefully this season will be successful. Obviously, you said it February eigth, this Thursday, this upcoming Thursday, the season will start. They will be in Atlanta, so not too far. If anybody can get out to Atlanta, they'll be playing Villanova for one game, Longwood for two games, and then Georgia Tech for two games. The first time at home will be starting February 16. And I have heard that they have put some new players on the outfield wall, how they memorialize some of the players in history. There's going to be some new names on there. So get out to a game that weekend and see what's up.
[00:30:30] Speaker B: Yeah, we're going to go to break. When we come back, we've got kind of an Alabama grab bag of topics. Same as last. Know more fallout from the Brad Bohannon scandal from last season. And apparently we got some confirmation on the whole Kaden Proctor, Iowa situation. So we'll be talking that when we come back, back into the load side, ladies and gentlemen, here on 90.7, the capstone and streaming live on live three, six, five and tune in apps. Nicholas, Joe Adam will be with you until the top of the hour. And our Grammys coverage will be following us. So that's exciting. Stick around for that.
So we got so many things we can talk about first off. Okay, so the NCAA finally came out on the first of this month with their release about the whole Brad Bohannon Alabama baseball head coach betting scandal. Just an absolute disaster. And it's just reading this truly just makes it ten times funnier.
I really cannot believe some of the stuff that's in here.
[00:32:04] Speaker C: Yeah, I'm going to be honest, he looks Brad Hannon. It sounded dumb when it first came out, how he got caught, and he somehow now seems dumber from this.
This was maybe like an all time funny thing to read about how he got caught and how this guy goes up to this betting company with $100,000 and I guess their maximum was he goes, it's for sure going to win. And then end I quote, if only you guys knew what I knew.
[00:32:45] Speaker A: To a sports book person when the official report came out last year and it said suspicious activity, and then it was said that, oh, they saw what was on the text messages. So everybody kind of assumed it was like, oh, they got some really good surveillance footage. Like they were able to zoom in on this phone, see what the message was. Well, the suspicious activity, I mean, one trying to go up with 100,000, they were like, no, a little lower. But the suspicious activity ended up being him saying those things like, it's for sure going to hit guys. If you knew what I knew. And then it's not the surveillance footage that caught what the text message said. He showed the sports book people what the text message said and they could easily see who it was from and then know show having it in the know. Let me know when it's placed so then I can tell LSU. So it's dumb all the way around. Obviously, we saw what the punishment has come out to be. And luckily for Alabama and first year head coach Rob Vaughn, with a team that's preseason ranked 19, they will not have to miss the postseason if they are eligible. Alabama got clear of that.
So three year probation, $5,000 fine, and then for Bohannon, 15 years show cause. But if hired anytime during the 15 years, suspended for five full seasons, could you imagine?
[00:34:15] Speaker C: Sorry, who would. Year seven, they're like, let's hire him. We'll get him six years from now.
[00:34:23] Speaker A: I did the math. So if he was after the 15 years, if he took a job, he would still be younger than what Nick Saban was when he just retired. But essentially the career is over. He would only have ten years, maybe.
[00:34:38] Speaker C: Who's hiring him?
[00:34:40] Speaker A: Because, I mean, at that point, is there any place that he could go to still stay coaching baseball? Because it's obviously not going to be in the NCAA. Could he go to, like, an NaIA?
[00:34:48] Speaker C: Well, I mean, like, the Little League World Series needs some coaches.
[00:34:52] Speaker A: Do they have sports books for.
[00:34:56] Speaker B: Do? Yes, they do. This is a know the thing that makes this so much worse. Okay. Right. It's like, you know, it's like you should not be placing bets basically on your own team.
It looks so bad. But then the fact that he obviously did not pick a very good co conspirator to do this with because what do you think the person at the counter who is ready to take the bet, I mean, the guy tried to place $100,000 wager on a random Alabama baseball team, which is like, probably got zero betting action in a long time.
[00:35:35] Speaker A: Here's another thing, too, because it's like, he's in. Was it Cincinnati? Was that where it's like, if it's in Cincinnati, that's one thing. But if you were in Vegas, it's like, oh, you want to blow 100,000, sure. But it's Cincinnati.
You're trying to place that much here, not something's up.
[00:35:52] Speaker B: Yeah. And so then they limit him to, oh, you're only allowed to place fifteen k on it. And then he tries to place additional bets and they're just like, no, it's.
[00:36:01] Speaker C: Just, I got a good feeling about Rutgers and wake forest.
[00:36:09] Speaker B: Truly an own goal.
What is it that he said exactly? It was like, literally like, oh, this one's got a hit. Let me show you these text messages.
[00:36:19] Speaker C: If only you knew what I knew.
[00:36:22] Speaker B: What do you think Bohannon's face looked like when he was afforded with the evidence of the guy from the counter who's like, oh, yeah, he told me it was going to hit. And then he showed me the text messages.
[00:36:32] Speaker C: It's just like, apparently he refused to cooperate with.
[00:36:37] Speaker A: He wouldn't release any of his digital devices.
Basically, he's just like, look, you all already got enough. I'm not going to help out with this at all.
[00:36:46] Speaker B: Well, I mean, in fairness, I think it was already toast.
[00:36:51] Speaker A: Let's go to his shoes. You're in Baton Rouge, right? You've already done this. But look, money's a little tight from.
[00:36:59] Speaker C: Your couple million dollar salary.
[00:37:01] Speaker A: So what I've heard from some people, he got in trouble gambling before he was even at Alabama. It was back when he was coaching in Kentucky. Nice. Most likely on the horse racing.
But anyway, this horse racing in Kentucky.
[00:37:18] Speaker C: No, I know. I wasn't questioning that. I was just thinking about, like, hammer secretariat.
[00:37:24] Speaker A: Yeah.
So apparently that's where it all started, right? So now he's at Alabama, and who knows how good the record could have been, like, if none of this was going on.
I don't know how many times he was given this guy information to place bets, but you got to think, he's done this a few times, right? And so he's sitting there, it's a Baton rouge, he's told this guy, and then all of a sudden, he probably gets the text message, like, yeah, you're done. And you just got to be. He's like, what did this idiot do?
And then, obviously, once he sees what exactly happened and that the guy showed the text message, I can't even imagine if whatever house he was living in was probably destroyed. Throwing some bats, some golf clubs. I would have threw everything.
[00:38:13] Speaker B: Well, let this be a lesson to anyone who tries to conspire to place bats on collegiate sporting teams. Maybe pick somebody who's not going to completely spill the beans at the counter.
[00:38:25] Speaker A: Do you have the name of the company that Alabama has to retain?
[00:38:28] Speaker B: Let's see. Epic Global Solutions.
[00:38:33] Speaker A: They will be retained to basically teach all the coaches and athletes.
Don't gamble.
This is also like, pretty soon after we learned about the Keyshawn bouti situation with LSU.
[00:38:47] Speaker B: Don't even get me started about that one. Might be even worse than this. Yeah.
[00:38:52] Speaker C: What was it?
[00:38:52] Speaker B: His account names was like.
[00:38:58] Speaker A: A. There was a clip. I don't know if it was the clip from the game that he placed one of the bets on himself, but there was a clip going around last year of when Jayden Daniels was trying to console him. Right. Because he looked upset. And now everybody's saying that's because he bet that he was going to make the over on his reception yards and he didn't have a catch in the third quarter.
[00:39:18] Speaker B: Yeah. So just true head scratcher there.
[00:39:21] Speaker A: Don't gamble. Kids and coaches.
[00:39:24] Speaker B: Don't light your money on fire. And if you're going to light your money on fire, make sure you're not on a collegiate sports team or the coach of a collegiate sports.
[00:39:33] Speaker C: Make sure you're not involved in a team that you will be betting on.
[00:39:36] Speaker B: Yeah.
I just can't believe some of this.
[00:39:40] Speaker A: I was also surprised they didn't just give Bohannon the lifetime ban.
Essentially, his career is over, but why not just go ahead and be like, hey, it's really over. Like, you're banned for life. And it would also set the precedent, like, if anybody else, like any other coach, it would be like, yeah, you're completely done.
[00:39:58] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:39:59] Speaker B: So speaking of incredibly incredible, self owns, the whole Kaden proctor situation with Iowa, where he got on tv and then basically said that. Basically admitted that Iowa had been tampering. So Iowa self reported a minor NCAA violation. Big shocker there.
Just another self own.
[00:40:25] Speaker A: We saw it. He was at the Iowa basketball game, also wearing a red hoodie. I don't know why he wasn't already in Iowa gear, but basically tells everybody, hey, when I was struggling playing against SEC competition and as a freshman, very understandable. But he was like, iowa was keeping that relationship alive, keeping in contact with him, letting him know that he was still welcome there, admitting the tampering he obviously has since transferred to Iowa and now Iowa has had to self report to the NCAA. But I believe it was Josh Pate who had put that post where it was like three year. It's like a button and it's like three year postseason ban for anybody with tampering. He's like, nobody would press this. It's like, yeah, so pretty much everybody is like, we know what goes on. Just don't say it in an interview.
[00:41:22] Speaker B: Yeah, well, the whole thing with that is like nobody's going to throw the first stone because everybody's done it.
Once again, college football in a very broken state right now where this thing is just like, okay, because everybody's doing it. And the only way that we're going to get to any sort of sustainable system is if massive changes are made to college football.
[00:41:45] Speaker C: Well, did you guys hear about the SEC and Big ten?
[00:41:49] Speaker B: Yeah, the commission, right?
[00:41:51] Speaker A: Yeah. Nick Saban better be in attendance of that thing even though he's retired. He better be like the head guy over there.
[00:41:57] Speaker B: Yeah, exactly. They got somebody who they can appoint.
[00:41:59] Speaker C: To be like another know, as they said, until Florida State joins the SEC and then it's all downhill, much like the other alliance was. But yeah, I don't. Yeah, I think we're just. The NCAA has a failed challenge.
[00:42:16] Speaker B: How many years? Let's take bets right now and I'll text it in the group chat in like five years. When this happens, when do we think that college football just implodes and the SEC and the Big Ten just strike it out on their own? How many years do we give it? I'm saying three. I give it three seasons before that. It's just because I think we're going to get to when they like. Because I believe this current playoff is only in place for another year or two. Two years. And then when they have to talk about what the automatic spots or all.
[00:42:53] Speaker A: That stuff, they're already having to talk about what it's going to be like for the next two years because they had already made an agreement, but now the PAC twelve is done. So now it's who are those power conferences that are going to get those automatic bids? So they already have to sit down and talk about it in that aspect. And so you would assume that they were already going to be talking about what is next?
Are they going to wait until this year is over and then you're in the last year of the playoff before you decide what's going to happen in the future? I don't know.
I'm kind of with you, Nick.
I don't know if they let it get to another playoff contract before they just go, we're going to do our own thing.
But then is it just going to be the SEC in the Big ten? Is it going to be other power conferences joining them? Do they bring any of the group of five or do they stay with the NCAA or is the NCA basically just going to be done completely? I don't know what's going to happen, but I could see right after the two years, but five years at most. So I like your original idea, but five years at most.
[00:44:02] Speaker C: Yeah.
I'm interested to see what happens in those couple of years after the playoff thing is kind of over. But I will say that I don't know if I give it that short amount of a time because there is still, I think, a possibility of Florida State and Miami and maybe North Carolina or some of the ACC schools maybe trying to join the SEC, Clemson, for example. And there have been a lot of reports about those teams being interested in joining the SEC, and they don't really have a lot of financial freedom to have that type of move right now. So I think it might be a little longer, like, it might be maybe like seven, eight years until they can kind of afford to get out of the ACC.
But yeah, I don't give it much more than it's within the next decade for sure.
[00:44:56] Speaker B: Yeah, I think it'll be sooner than a lot of people think it would be.
[00:45:01] Speaker A: It'll be next week.
[00:45:02] Speaker B: Yeah. Just explodes tomorrow as soon as we go off there.
[00:45:06] Speaker C: So Nick Saban retires and then college football just ends as we know college football fitting.
[00:45:13] Speaker B: So that's going to do it for us here on the low tab. Folks, thank you for joining us. Next week we should be back to our normal time.
[00:45:21] Speaker A: We will let everybody know.
[00:45:23] Speaker B: We will let you know through Twitter, obviously. WVuaFM Sports thank you for joining us. We hope you join us again next week.
[00:45:32] Speaker C: We want Cody.
[00:45:33] Speaker B: Thank you. And we want Cody, of course.
